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Monster Hunter and Learning to be Patient with New Experiences | The Escapist Show

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The games we've been playing 0:00 - 7:09
Monster Hunter and patience 7:10 - 21:41
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  1. Jane Matthews

    Jane Matthews

    10 өдрийн өмнө

    Yeah, they won't play guilty gear, kof or any of the fighting games coming out this year....

  2. Lowen

    Lowen

    11 өдрийн өмнө

    Jack Packard has powerful dad-magic

  3. Arthur G.R.

    Arthur G.R.

    14 өдрийн өмнө

    Its not surprising that you hate cRPGs if what you've played is Pillars of Eternity and Dragon Age.

  4. TheCreepypro

    TheCreepypro

    19 өдрийн өмнө

    I'm not here to yuck your yum is something we need to spread across the internet

  5. Plural

    Plural

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    I am finally enjoying Cultist Simulator and it has been hours upon hours of not knowing what the fuck was happening. Once I reach the end, I'll have an idea of whether or not the up front frustration and confusion was worth it.

  6. Guy Underwood

    Guy Underwood

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    FFXIII is the best example of a game taking too long to get good. It's incredibly fun and engaging once you get through the 20 hour tutorial.

  7. Mo

    Mo

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Jack: „Monster Hunter didn‘t click for me, at least the „World“ version didnt.“ This is completely understandable. I‘ve played every Monster Hunter game since „Freedom Unite“ on the PSP and „World“ felt like a simplified and watered-down version of the Monster Hunter experience. I‘d almost compare it to playing Pokemon Let‘s Go Pikachu/Eeve instead of a mainline Pokemon game. You kind of get the same experience but by no means the full/true experience.

  8. SpaceBoy_Moptop

    SpaceBoy_Moptop

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    I did not get hooked into Hollow Knight until i fought the Mantis Lords. After that, I almost 100% the game.

  9. BlakLite15

    BlakLite15

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Whenever I hear someone say that they don't like racing games, I can't help but wonder what kind of racing game they're playing. If they've only played racing simulators like Forza, then yes, those games are dull as dishwater. I feel like both the industry and the gaming public have forgotten the pure joy of arcadey racers like Burnout. In those games, it's fun to just hit the gas and steer.

  10. Sebastian Lasevicius

    Sebastian Lasevicius

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Best Jack-tro ever.

  11. BljesakiOluja

    BljesakiOluja

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Funny, I just started playing MHW few days ago.

    • BljesakiOluja

      BljesakiOluja

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      @StrikeWarlock Perhaps.

    • StrikeWarlock

      StrikeWarlock

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      You lucked out. You basically get to play MHW without it's past worse issues due to Iceborne.

  12. SnuSnuDungeon

    SnuSnuDungeon

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Still curious about the corn dog pics behind Jack. I'd like to know the story👀

  13. Arif R Winandar

    Arif R Winandar

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    I started playing Monster Hunter only because a friend who's playing it is looking for a teammate, and I happened to be the only other guy in school with a PSP. I've been a Monster Hunter fan ever since.

  14. BlackHoleEyes

    BlackHoleEyes

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Monster hunter is a series that get more enjoyable the deeper you get. In the beginning you only have basic armour, which are relatively directionless. As you get further in, armour gets a lot more focused and specialized. And then you get to high-rank, armours become not only better in general, but also get decoration slots, letting you really make custom builds for specific purposes. Not to mention you unlock more monsters, more gameplay systems, more moves in some games etc. Monster Hunter is a series that gives more, the more you invest in it. Which does means it can have a rough start, but once you get through that, you're stuck with it, and you wonder where the sun went.

  15. BlackHoleEyes

    BlackHoleEyes

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Man, Jack when you get that expression of wide-eyed wonder in the beginning, you look so much like Ade Edmondson.

  16. Silva Ronin

    Silva Ronin

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    I love you Jack.

  17. Phil Zan

    Phil Zan

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Man I remember my first monster hunter game for the 3ds... SO BORING! It was basically PSO ep 1/2 but with tutorial hell for the first 10 hours... bleh

  18. bird3713

    bird3713

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    When I played Deus Ex: Human Revolution, I got five hours into it and put it down for three years. Then I played it and loved it. Then I bought Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, knowing that I would love the game. I played it for about two hours, and put it down for two years. Just recently went back and actually beat it.

  19. Anubis

    Anubis

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Everybody loves Monster Hunter, they just don't stick it out long enough to know it.

  20. Tomato Espositos

    Tomato Espositos

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Is this a wizard show whit gaming content.?...... Awesome!!!!!

  21. HyperAstartes

    HyperAstartes

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    My main problem with MHW is that the Weapon Tutorial/Teaching experience is plain awful. Rather than the game organically teaching you how weapons work, usually everyone just points you a to a video done by Arekkz or somewhat like that. Which to me is a cardinal sin a game dev can do for me personally. Especially when MHW is marketted as "Accessible" or similar to Dark Souls/Bloodbourne (which I love) but the game never clicked for me during the 15 hours I played it.

    • Juan Gabriel Salinas Andrade

      Juan Gabriel Salinas Andrade

      16 өдрийн өмнө

      Hi, your point about the tutorial being afwul its completely true for new players. I think the reasons for why the tutorial is design in that way (This is my opinion as a older player so i could be wrong :D ) is because: 1) each weapon has unique playstiles different from each other with a lot of information that can be overwhelming as a tutorial. Usually the game give you the base controls so you can experiment. Areks videos is usually the full move list of the weapon and a couple of tips from his experience. It is the same info in the game but without reading paragraphs like my comment lol. 2) the game cannot teach you the perfect combo because there is no perfect combo, every attack is situational. It depends if you are attacking a fast or slow monster, if the monster is incapacited maybe you can use a combo or a heavy attack. You as a player learn what is the best attack for each situation. It like a turn base combat, attack and see what the monster will do. Sorry for the long comment but if you see this I hope you can give it another chance with a different point of view, the game is worth it. Have a nice day :)

  22. Geoffrey Winn

    Geoffrey Winn

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Cool video!

  23. ManDevil

    ManDevil

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    When Nick does the "Joey" eyes at the start I lost it.

  24. Crispman 777

    Crispman 777

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    Jack would be great at parties

  25. DeebZ Scrub

    DeebZ Scrub

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    I too eat crackers in bed all the time. Just gotta change the sheets a lot

  26. weebish

    weebish

    20 өдрийн өмнө

    on the topic of being in a different environments for souls likes, i personally put on upbeat music like the persona soundtracks to make me more confident and feel like going straight back to where i died instead of giving up for a week

  27. ManiacArtist

    ManiacArtist

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I would recommend for Monster Hunter, to play with a friend that is a veteran. MH doesn't hold your hand at all so you need someone that can give you a hand so you can understand the game not carry you

  28. Kaefer1973

    Kaefer1973

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Well I'm a huge fan of the CRPG genre, and I can promise, thinking that Pillars of Eternity is ba boring drag is completely normal. In this case it may be the tedious game that offers nothing new to the table rather than the somewhat slow genre. Than again Dragon Age 1 was fine.

  29. Ace_sabo_luffy__

    Ace_sabo_luffy__

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Good show guys. Ps I recommend saints row the third on easy. It’s hilarious

  30. General Roy

    General Roy

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I love the world of bloodborne, but after countless attempts at getting through it I just don't have patience. I hate losing progress and I enjoy games much more with friends nowadays. The witcher 3 was the last single player I actually finished and enjoyed in a timely manner.

  31. Thomas Rhodes

    Thomas Rhodes

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    When I think of "it gets good after X amount of hours" when immediately comes to mind is Xenoblade Chronicles X. It's pretty good right off the bat, but you don't get the mech until basically 30 hours in. In my honest opinion, it was all worth it, and the rest of the game was so worth the time investment.

  32. Peter Kennedy

    Peter Kennedy

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    consider the Dishonored franchise as a 'perfect' Jedi game

  33. xGaryHUNx

    xGaryHUNx

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Great episode! Whats the song that plays in the background when they are talking?

  34. grunger549

    grunger549

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I'm with Jack. Monster Hunter should be right up my alley, but I just found it incredibly tedious and boring

  35. Kevadu

    Kevadu

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    MHW was my first MH game but I completely fell in love with it. I was aware of the series before that but hadn't really engaged with it in large part because it was mostly on portables and I'm just not much of a portable player. But damn MHW was a fantastic experience from beginning to end. For me at least it might be the closest thing to gameplay perfection that I've ever played. It's all PvE, sure, but that's all I really care about. I'm not into PvP. Nothing but boss fights? As if that's a bad thing. You know what's boring in video games? Fighting a bunch of the same mobs over and over. Boss fights are the *fun* part. So by all means cut out the rest of that crap and give me a bunch of unique and interesting monsters to fight. It's got 14 weapon types that all actually feel and play completely different, to the point where it's almost like having 14 different games to play in one. It's got a unique progression system that's much more engaging than just grinding levels but also let's you feel stronger without ever being overpowered. It's got quite good co-op if you want to play with your friends. It has some truly unique and challenging fights if that's what you're looking for. Finally defeating Extreme Behemoth for the first time was probably one of the most memorable gaming experiences of my life. (Note that it was also completely optional if you *didn't* want to do it. That fight was largely just there for the challenge.) It just amazes me that more people don't give this series a chance. It's so damn good.

  36. Storm Boss

    Storm Boss

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    You get 3 hours to decide if you want to keep a game or you can't return it. This sets the bar for patients.

  37. Hipólito Alanís

    Hipólito Alanís

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Clearly this revelation is the sign that Nick has to stream a JRPG.

    • Tommy Salty

      Tommy Salty

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      How bout not?:D

    • Sora383

      Sora383

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      @The Escapist depends on the jrpg In my opinion, ones like persona where you can make different choices each day would be entertaining I think.

    • The Escapist

      The Escapist

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      It'd be soooooooooooooooooooooooo boring to watch.

  38. The Dude

    The Dude

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Love the tick references!

  39. king of svalbard

    king of svalbard

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    You guys are definitely getting better!

  40. Digital666Devil

    Digital666Devil

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I play often on easy. I'm 40 and there is not much time to play. Asassins creed I played on easy. Because it feld to me that the fights are only take longer on harder difficulty. And I feel my time is not valued by the game.

  41. Enrico Marelli

    Enrico Marelli

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    The perfect Jedi game is Sekiro, Jack.

  42. Digital666Devil

    Digital666Devil

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Monster hunter world didn't click to me ether! How much do I need to play or what part is the part where it should click

    • Ian Rocco

      Ian Rocco

      16 өдрийн өмнө

      Iv been playing monster hunter games for 10 years and i still am just hitting things in the face with a giant hammer. Maybe one day ill lesrn what the items do.

    • Cameron Greathouse

      Cameron Greathouse

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      Normally it has to do with finding the right weapon for yourself for a lot of people, as well as just learning the combat in general. Most people underestimate just how deep it is and how much freedom you have with it. Most people just run at the monster and just whack it without really thinking about anything the very first time. They don't know how their weapon works, they aren't paying attention to what the monster is doing or what the current area is offering the player to use. For me I became hooked when I found my weapon the gunlance, and learned the majority of its moveset. Then I learned to utilize different parts of that moveset against different monsters. Then I started really paying attention to environments I was fighting in, such as 'oh look, there's a ledge I can use to try to mount the monster!' Or 'oh look! This cave has stalagtites on the ceiling! If I hit those they'll knock the monster over!' The experience really opens up more and more as learn more about the game. It can be rough starting out because it feels clunky, because it IS clunky when you don't know what you're doing. Your weapon doesn't feel good because you don't know how to utilize it. Etc.

    • Andrew

      Andrew

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      I'd be interested to know this for people whose first experience with MH is World. I've been playing[addicted to] the series for 15/16 years, so I'm afraid to recommend it to my friends who haven't played a game like it before.

    • Meister Kleister Heisst Er

      Meister Kleister Heisst Er

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      It's a bit like Dark Souls in that you have to do a lot of research on how to build and play. Some weapons are easier to play against certain monsters and each weapon has a bunch of attack combos, but you usually only need to learn 3-4 of the combos of each weapon. I learned a lot from watching SDShepard on YT (formerly known as "Social Dissonance"). AAAnd most of the fun in Monster Hunter is really just playing together with friends and other people.

  43. Dorron Hopeman

    Dorron Hopeman

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Unlike any other media, playing a game is like acting, an active process of completing the work. Finding all roles enjoyable or achievable is just humanly impossible and that's one of the main reasons why critiquing games as a job is so tricky.

  44. Kevin Mercier

    Kevin Mercier

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Flourish Finger Opener is the best Finger Opener.

  45. Oliver Gould

    Oliver Gould

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    Always good to hear a The Tick reference especially the cartoon.

  46. NocturnalNick

    NocturnalNick

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    The thumb trick startled me for a second

  47. Sora383

    Sora383

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I know it will probably not happen but I would enjoy seeing Jack stream Kotor, I played that when it first came out on Xbox and it is probably one of my favorite games. When it comes to patience in gaming for me personally I have to really have buy into the story, even if the gameplay is kinda trash if I’m hooked on the story/characters I will keep going. The reverse of that is for games like monster hunter as much as I enjoy the combat, the stories have never kept me engaged and I tend to end up dropping them.

  48. Bruce Wayne

    Bruce Wayne

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I have found playing video games more enjoyable since i became a mega casual.

    • Zippy Dastrange

      Zippy Dastrange

      20 өдрийн өмнө

      OCD wants to adjust mechanics and pacing to taste...its boring when I can't.

    • Yuzuru

      Yuzuru

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      as I got older really Don t have the pacience for ultra anything

  49. Jon Mendoza

    Jon Mendoza

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    People are starting to see brain cells, and the ability to learn, to keep growing even into their 60's. Saw it on a late-night show.

  50. Andres Baquerizo

    Andres Baquerizo

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    It bothers me when people compare monster hunter to soulsborne, like soulsborne wasnt inspired by monster hunter- aside from both ganes being very different in gameplay loop and objectives :/

    • Dima Noetske

      Dima Noetske

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      Souls games actually helped me quite a bit with mh. They both utilize deliberate and methodical combat, require massive amounts of patience, and encourage players to study boss patterns to know when to attack.

    • Bebop

      Bebop

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      @Andres Baquerizo Also the fact that the first Monster Hunter was released four years before Demon Souls.

    • Andres Baquerizo

      Andres Baquerizo

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      @The Escapist i' argue that similarity is the evidence of mh inspiring soulsborne games.

    • The Escapist

      The Escapist

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      They’re very different, but both also require significant time investment, and understanding of the mechanics to actually enjoy, which is what I was getting at. No mention was made of one being inspired by the other.

  51. Chase Danychuk

    Chase Danychuk

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    I don't think Jack is really magic. I think it was fake.

  52. Smart Smears

    Smart Smears

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    This is the first time I've seen those finger tricks actually look convincing

    • Spike Bebop

      Spike Bebop

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      I agree

    • RumoTu

      RumoTu

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      I remember casually talking with my friends about how kids can be tricked easily and said "you know, like the finger trick" (the one at the very beginning of the video). So I began to show it to them, and at the other side of a bar there was this girl watching in our direction, as soon as I "ripped away" my finger she became all white and passed out. After we woke her up she told me she actually believed that I ripped my own finger. One of the best laughs in my life.

    • ZhuDaoLong

      ZhuDaoLong

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      @tbirch42 I suspect 2 Canadians

    • tbirch42

      tbirch42

      21 өдрийн өмнө

      Professional level CGI, ya. 👍🏻

  53. ButtPirate FullThrust

    ButtPirate FullThrust

    21 өдрийн өмнө

    First

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